This is how Piotr Lisek reacted to Duplantis’ record. Where is the Pole? “Something’s not broken”

On Sunday in Belgrade he became the indoor world champion and again broke the world record. 6.20 m is already the fourth record set by the Swede, who is only 22 years old. Only in the role of a spectator was another achievement of Duplantis experienced by our best pole vaulter,. Silver and twice bronze medalist M¦ at the stadium and two-time bronze medalist M¦ did not qualify for this year.

£ ukasz Jachimiak: You are sitting in front of the TV, watching Armand Duplantis jump 6.20 mi what do you think? This is “Damn, you can never beat him again!” or are you calculating that you have already jumped high and hope is not dying?

Piotr Lisek: If I were a footballer, I would say that the ball is in the game all the time. This is a sport, there is no such situation here that it is impossible to win against someone. And it’s really cool that we have a Mondo. Thanks to it, more and more people in the world notice how great competition the pole vault is. And with this Mondo, even though it is perfect, you can certainly win. There will always be someone even bigger.

Only in how many years? Because these are epochal leaps, Duplantis here and now is impossible to catch.

– It is true. He won’t finish jumping for a long time, but if he suddenly finds that he is thanking him and wants to do something else, he will stay with us until the end of the world and one day longer. He is etched on the pages of history forever. Is amazing. And at the same time, he is a guy who, in a normal conversation, does not give the feeling that he is much higher than you. Every time we meet, he is nice, kind, he wants to listen to you. Praise him for staying normal.

So he flew away in the sport sense, but in the human sense he is still on the ground?

– Certainly, such gigantic successes have a resonance in private life. It is certainly the case that some people look at him differently, they think that he is a star now, that he is different. But it is not, he flew away, but only in sports. It flew away a lot, up to 6.20 m.

6.20 is a cosmic result, but looking at Duplantis’ progress, everyone starts to think that 6.30 is also possible. Do you think so too?

– Slowly, calmly, there is still a 10 cm difference between what is already and what may be. So it’s still 10 world records to beat, because Mondo is walking centimeter by centimeter. She has hip elevation, but with us the elevation that matters is the lowest point of crossing over the bar. In its jump at 6.20 Mondo it touched the crossbar, ie it would have dropped it if it had already been hanging at the height of 6.21.

But Mondo has possibilities, hips indicate that it can jump higher.

What do your hips say?

– That I can jump over 6 meters. I already proved it [rekord ¿yciowy Liska to 6.02 m] and I hope that I will be able to prove it someday.

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When? Is this a dream or a specific goal for this year’s summer with M¦ and ME on the calendar?

– I was very well prepared for this indoor season, but something did not pop and I did not find the height. It hasn’t come out for the first time in seven years. But I repeat again – this is a sport and anything can happen.

Have you seen and heard how Monika Pyrek appeals to you and Paweł Wojciechowski? Duplantis said in an interview with TVP Sport that he has no limits and then our former champion asked that you and Paweł also believe that nothing limits you.

– We create limits in our heads, I agree with that. It’s nice that Monika is with us, that she believes in us. We thank her for that. Monika is our good pole spirit.

How many medals of great events have you already won?

– I don’t know exactly. 7? 8? 9?

Nine. And all this before your 30th birthday. Not qualifying for indoor M¦ must be a one-time story, you will definitely come back to the fight for medals, right?

– If I were badly prepared, if I felt that my body is no longer able to cope, maybe I would get discouraged. But I know where I was in training and my heart is angry that I did not take advantage of it. But it absolutely doesn’t close my plans for the next seasons!

Then tell me what level of training you were at.

– Every time I hung 5.81 m and jumped it many times during the training. And competitions came and it didn’t work out. I was ready for the minimum going to M¦, it was really good.

5.81 m was a minimum, but jumping is not really high anymore. You often repeated that 5.70-5.80 is high, but it doesn’t get the medal anywhere. In Belgrade it was necessary to get to bronze at 5.90.

– Yes, it has been like this for several events.

Probably since ME Berlin 2018, where even 5.90 didn’t give you a medal, because you were fourth.

– Yes, this threshold has changed. You have to change your thinking – 5.70 is no longer high jumping, but moderate. And the high one starts at 5.80. There are a handful of people in the world who jump so much. This season, it’s probably only 12 people. It speaks for itself. Of course there is Mondo, an outstanding unit. He is above all of us. Not only above me, but also above Sam Kendricks or Renaud Lavillie. These are the legends of athletics, and Mondo also adds 20-30 and even 40 cm to them.

It’s going to be half a meter.

– This is what it is like when a dominator appears. But I hope that the rest will follow this dominator. We also work.

Are you already working for the summer season?

– Yes. I had two weeks off and now I’m training. Still loose for now. I don’t like a workout after which I don’t spit my lungs out. I like to come home exhausted. Unfortunately, now I come to training and here I will raise my leg a bit, go a bit on the bar there – this is not a real Fox. I like biting sand.

Because you are a rabid fox.

– Ha, ha! That’s the truth! Just do not write such a title: “Lisek zwcieklizną”! God, that would be a drama!