The personal interests to co-opt administrative spaces in the National Assembly, by the self-proclaimed rebels of Pachakutik, would be the main cause for the division of the seven colors of the rainbow bench, according to Rafael Lucero, who coordinates that political group that at At the moment it is made up of 14 of the 25 legislators who arrived at the National Assembly, in May 2021.
Lucero considers that the eight rebel legislators play the game and carry out the errands of Correismo, which is represented in the National Assembly by the Unión por la Esperanza (UNES) bench, and also clarifies that the current president of Parliament, Guadalupe Llori, does not have to change. nothing, because legally his work is fine.
Why did the Pachakutik bench that you coordinate split?
Basically for personal interests of those who today declare to be rebels.
What kind of interests are you referring to?
Always pretending to participate internally in the Assembly, wanting to have administration spaces internally and wanting to be the future presidents of the permanent specialized commissions. I must say that from the beginning there was disagreement in their sector, because they wanted to be part of the CAL and the administration, and since they couldn’t, they began to put their positions.
But did this get worse later, because it was last December that they became visible?
This issue came to be deepened with the processing of the urgent economic law sent by the Executive and there were criteria of whether it is supported or not; later, there were the papers of Pandora, which defined positions. Beyond that, I think they are not consistent with the movement but rather they are running errands for UNES (Union for Hope), because from the beginning they have tried to break the benches.
But do the so-called rebels maintain that the group you lead is with the government of Guillermo Lasso?
This is what they state, but the facts are totally the opposite, we have been clear in the voting, there are countless changes to the agenda proposed by UNES, sometimes we have voted with them. In the urgent economic law, it was UNES that did not allow it to be denied and archived, and today they propose, together with our fellow rebels, the repeal of the law. Here a problem arises because the CAL motions for the Constitutional Court to be consulted, when it is something that should have been qualified and passed on to the respective commission. We are not with the government.
Do the rebel group play the game or are they with UNES?
They are openly with UNES, you can see how they put on the show, in the last plenary session they recorded everything that happened. In addition, we know that the advisers to Assembly members Ángel Maita and Mireya Pazmiño are Correistas and operate along these lines.
How to correct this situation or is it already difficult to close wounds with the Pachakutik rebels?
In politics, when a position is already taken, it is difficult, I believe that it will not be easy to correct and it will not be so real, because several meetings have been requested and comrade Marlon Santi has called, a dialogue has been reached, but in the end they come out and they leave, and then they say something else that we are not going to be able to sustain.
Have they not attended the sessions called by you as block coordinator?
They do not attend, they do not go to the caucus where decisions are made, then they are already political positions of interest, and as long as they do not overthrow the president of the Assembly, Guadalupe Llori, and as long as they do not come up with what they want, they will not give in. They are even personal positions.
Do they seek to take over the presidency of the Assembly?
There one of the main candidates seeking to reach the presidency of the Assembly is the compañera Mireya Pazmiño, she is working in that sense; from what we see those are their intentions.
How many do you have in the block?
We are still fourteen members of the Assembly, there we have three members of the Assembly who are in the middle, who are neither there nor here, when it is a specific issue they vote with us or else they divide and remain neutral. The other group has seven assembly members.
Guadalupe Llori, then, lost the majority that took her to the presidency of the Assembly?
That’s right, we are at this moment defining how the voting will be from now on, because neither they (the rebels) nor we have a majority, because we must remember that it goes through the decision of some independents who would tip the balance.
What should Guadalupe Llori change to unite more within the Assembly and avoid this type of conflict?
There is nothing to change, the work is legally fine, but when they have their interests it is impossible to want to hold dialogues. The president of the Assembly has met the deadlines and everything they are arguing about are unrealistic issues. (I)
Source: Eluniverso
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