Luis Luzuriaga: “There is a projection of 84,000 initial fonavistas to whom it can be returned”

The ad hoc commission in charge of making the return of Fonavi effective approved a few weeks ago the regulation that will make this measure viable, which will help to reintegrate the contributions to a first group. However, they ask Congress to insist with the autograph that authorizes partial returns.

—What progress has been made on the return of Fonavi?

We have already approved the regulation (for the return) a week ago and it is already in the PCM, it’s been a week already and so far there is no response about it. The concrete thing is that we have the money, the register, a regulation and even a formula to apply the advance. It will not be total, but it will be the advance, so there is a formula to be able to distribute that money among all that register. The only thing we lack is the norm that allows us to give that money as an advance.

—About the advance, he refers to the autograph that the Executive observed. Will it be insisted on?

That’s what we expect from Congress. We have been talking with the congressmen and they expressed their indignation over this issue because in reality the autograph of law resolves a social issue regarding the issue of refund, because there are many fonavistas who are older adults and who due to their age have very serious illnesses . It is a norm that is addressed to the ad hoc commission, to us, so that we can operationalize the norm and begin to give the advance. It has nothing to do with the Executive nor does it force it to do anything that has to do with the Public Treasury. And any problem of apparent contradiction in the rule is resolved by the regulation of the law.

—If the insistence of the autograph is approved, when could the return be given?

The congressmen have told us that they are going to pass it at our insistence and they are going to approve it. If everything goes well, between August and September we already have all the juridical and legal issues so that the refund can begin; we would only need the technical part, which is what the Technical secretary of the commission.

“Who would you start with?”

It has to be determined based on 1 million 200,000 on which universe is going to start; If it is about the contributions, we have to see what universe we have with their contributions in the register, which are more or less 7,000 with a projection of 84,000 initial fonavistas who can be returned based on the contributions and who are already identified. For us it is very important that you start with the return even if it is from a group because that will allow you to establish the acquired right; that is, if it has already started, it has to continue. On the other hand, the Executive You need something to show that you are doing something and that better than 2 million fonavistas.

—The regulation should already be published by the Executive.

I hope it is approved as we have agreed because it has been a consensus of the seven members of the commission. We have tried to generate a regulation that allows us to return what is fair.

—Is it feasible that the return be in the short term?

Yes, because we have S/2,000 million in the commission and there is a standard. We start with those who have information about their contributions.

—The MEF mentioned that there is a problem to quantify the monetary contributions.

The regulation that we approve is like responding to the minister. All information coming from public entities and companies will be taken as official. In the public sector, the State He has the sheets. In the private sector, it is true that many companies have left; Of all those who worked between 1980 and 1998, only 27% are active and 73% left the market, but of this group the ONP has practically 60% of the forms in its central file and the problem is entering the contributions .

– Is there will of the Executive?

I think not, and if there is, it is minimal because they are always trying to reduce the return to a minimum.